Interview with 48 Fest Kenya Producer and Director - Jules Wilson

Was it difficult to find people to take part in the programme, it is, after all, quite a big deal to get tested on camera...?

We had some trouble initially particularly with the African story, since we were looking specifically for a pregnant woman. Its never easy to get someone to do something so personal on camera. But the contributors understood that we were doing a positive thing that would encourage others to get tested - I think that really helped them make up their minds.

Did you find there to be differences in attitudes towards HIV and AIDS in the three countries you visited?

The issue of stigma, of society perceiving you as someone dangerous and diseased, seemed to be common to all three countries. People feared being tested because they could be viewed as someone who might have HIV and end up ostracised. Ghana was particularly bad in this regard. Jamaica was also unique in that HIV was strongly associated with homosexuality in what is a very homophobic society. But all these attitudes shared a common source: poor education.

It mustve been a big surprise when Cynthia went into labour can you describe what went on behind the scenes?

When the midwife told us she was having contractions we werent sure who to believe Cynthia kept insisting she was fine! It wasnt until we found her in hospital the next day carrying her newborn baby that it sank in. It made things pretty hectic for us as we had to figure out a new way to cover her story, but it was worth it to capture the moments of her with her baby boy.

How tense was the atmosphere when waiting for each persons results?

The moment the results are delivered is always a tense one, because no-one truly knows until theyre tested. Cynthias case was the toughest - if she tested positive, there was a strong chance her baby would be positive too. It put things in perspective knowing we could get on a plane and go home while she had to live with the result. In the end the rest of us did the test as well- out of solidarity!

We see in the programme that everyone is offered post-test counselling how useful was this for the participants?

The mood on receiving a negative result was great relief, and each participant wanted to know how to keep it that way. So they had lots of questions. The experience of having a test really seemed to wake them up to the issues- we got the sense that, even without post-test counselling, they would have made an effort to inform themselves a bit better. Having a trained health professional on hand meant the information they received would be reliable.

What was the big thing you took away from working on this programme?

A lot has been said about HIV and attitudes towards HIV in the developing world you sometimes get the sense that people in these regions have bizarre or irrational beliefs about the disease. What we found, meeting and talking to people, is that this isnt the case at all. Theyre concerned about their health, what their community will think of them, what hope they will have for a normal life if tested positive. These were the people facing the greatest risks and bleakest options risks we dont think about in the developed world and the way they dealt with them was humbling. The stigma and beliefs we hear about, these are the result of poor education, nothing more. That was the biggest thing we took away from the documentary.

[photo] - Shurwin Beckford
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